February 14, 1997 - J.C. calls Art furious during the first hour. Two nights prior, another caller
with a voice similar to J.C. called while Art was interviewing Whitley Streiber about the possibility
of an asteroid impact. This caller claimed the End Times actually began with the passage of
comet Hale-Bopp. Art commented that the caller sounded like "that Devil's Mouthpiece Caller."

Art: "Wild Card Line! You're on the air, hello!"
J.C.: "How dare you! How dare you- I'm tellin' ya right now-  the other night with that- that- You set that
caller against me on purpose! Lies!"
Art: "Now w- ju- hold- h- now-"
J.C.: "That- that- that you intended because he was not me! What he said- I know that- that- he- he- he-"
Art: "Now hold on! Wait a minute! Wait a minute!! I gotta know. You mean that wasn't you?"
J.C.: "No that was not me! And you know it wasn't me! Because you set that up in order to discredit me
by having the conclusions that the Hale-Bopp comet is gonna.."
Art: "I did not! I did not! Now wait just one second! He sounded like a 'slower you' all the way!"
J.C.: "It was something that, that; It was the Devil's doppleganger; something he has set up to discredit me
because what he was saying about the fact that he was predicting that the Hale-Bopp comet is gonna be
bringing forth some kind of destroyer is wrong! Because the Wrath of the Lord is not coming down from a
comet or an asteroid! It is coming down when the sky will open up and empart [sic] and that glorious hand of
the Lord will come down there and smite those who have stood and offended against him! And it's not gonna
be a comet! You know.."
Art: "All right! All right! Look, that's cool. Are you sure this is not you calmer, younger brother?"
J.C.: "No! This is not! You know! I believe you set that up with the Canadians just so that you could discredit
me and discredit the New Revelation against me!"
Art: "What? Why do you; What about the Canadians?! What does it have to do with the Canadians?!"  
J.C.: "You know exactly what it is! And, and it has to tie-in with what you're doing with Alaska, who has been
assimilated by the Canadians already! And you're gonna go up there and you're gonna get your orders for; for
what you can do to bring back for you to destroy America! And I am outraged that you set that up! That you,
you, you purposely had someone come on and try and take away- See, I switched phones! I switched! I
have a whole new number that you cannot read when I was comin' through. And so I called on the other line
instead of the 'West of the Rockies,' which is the one I usually call from!"
Art: "Well you know what? You know what? I think that maybe you do have somebody out there who is your..
Close to your brother!"
J.C.: "No! No! No! Because what he was saying is wrong! He was trying to mix truth with lies! And saying that,
that the Hale-Bopp comet- The wrath of the Lord is not gonna come down in a comet! It's gonna be the Hand
of God It's gonna come down and smite them! And smite you for what you have done! This fornication against
my name will not stand! And that was an impostulation!"
Art: "An impostulation?!"
J.C.: "YES! It was- it was- it was WRONG of you to do that! And the fact that, that you're trying to, to
discredit me and tie my name into that, that comet business! That, that you went out of your way to fake the
photographs so you could just tie my name to it! This entire conspiracy that you've been brewing for months!"
Art: "You know what I'm gonna do for you? You know what I'm gonna do for you? I'm going to.. I'm gonna do
something I promised myself I would never do, but I'm going to do. How would you like to be, for a period of at
least thirty minutes, how would you like to be a guest on the program?"
J.C.: "I would! That's fine!"
Art: "I mean, you could express your ideas in a way you never have previously had enough time to do. You
could answer callers' questions. You could in effect, be a guest!"
J.C.: "Fine with me! All the better to spread the New Revelation!"
Art: "Really!"
J.C.: "YES!"
Art: "All right! I, uh, I tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put you on hold, and I will come to you at the top of the
hour and get your number and call you back, so we'll pay for the call, and let you be a guest for at least a half an
hour! And let the audience call in and talk to you."
J.C.: "That's fine by me!"
Art: "All right, stay right where you are.  (pause)  *sigh*  (long pause with finger-tapping in background)  
Why not? It's Friday night."

(Break - Art calls J.C.)

Art: "All right. Lets find out if he's really on the line, first. Uh, caller are you there?"
J.C.: "I am here!"
Art : "Oh, you su-certainly are! All right! Um, you've rarely been on this early in the program, and I am now going
to give you what you have always wished, and that is; more of a forum to say what you wanna say. You claim I
never give you enough time."
J.C.: "That's correct! You always cut me off and subvert my words and turning them against me by calling me
The Devil's Mouthpiece which I am not!"
Art: "All right! All right! That's fair enough! Look, look.."
(Art blocks out something.)
Art: "Wait a minute! Wait a minute! No! No!  I don't want your entire name! We never allow last names on the
air, so what we're gonna have to do is call you by a nickname. How about-  J.C.?  J.C.!"
J.C.: "That is fine with me!"
Art: "All right then! From now on you will be known as J.C.  And do you know what I wanna know? I wanna know
why you think that I'm the Devil's toe jam; the Devil's Mouthpiece; that I would forward the ideas of the evil one
below!?"
J.C.: "Well, first of all, you have desecrated the holy ground of talk radio; right wing talk radio. When I began to
see that the movement of talk radio was here to cleanse and clarify America with the greats such as Rush
Limbaugh and Pat Robertson and you came along.. "
Art: ('demonic') "I desecrated Talk Radio!"
J.C.: "No! You let me talk! You bring forward all these New Age ideas and you subvert Christianity by, well you
say, 'Oh, I believe in the Lord, and I think this, and I think that,' and then you bring on all these people who do
remote traveling and Remote Viewing, and conjuring, and demon worship! And; because you bring in the
New Age, which is like the Trojan Horse of Satan that the New Age will come and he will bring you all these
great things with crystals and beauty, and what he does is he's slippin' it past you, and you're provoking
people to go into trances and astrally travel, and to attempt psychic phenomena, which is expressly
forbidden by the Lord! And by the Lord through me and through the New Revelation, and he spoke to me,
and he told me that YOU! YOU! Are bringing about the evil, foul desecration of America's night time people!
Because there are people who; what you do is you get them, and there late at night, and they leave their radios
on after listening to maybe  G. Gordon Liddy or Rush Limbaugh, and then you come along and creep into their
subconscious and plant all sorts of evil ideas about, about fornication!"
Art: "Fornication. Okay, listen. But all that aside, otherwise, I'm a cool guy!"
J.C.: "You're not gonna be very cool when you're burnin' in Hell!"
Art: ('demonic')  "Burning in Hell! Burning! Burning! Burning!" -- "All right, look. I promised the audience; I
always get a chance to talk to you. They never get a chance to talk to you. So I'm gonna let the audience talk to
you. West of the Rockies, you're on the air with J.C.!"

Caller 1

Caller: "Hi Art, this is Cynthia from San Diego."
Art: "Hi Cynthia!"
Cynthia: "I'm the wife of Ed who called earlier and he's called you in the past."
Art: "Yes. Yes. Yes."
Cynthia: "I've got more of a comment and a question. For J.C.?"
Art: "Go ahead!"
Cynthia: "Uh, J.C., I'm a Christian, too."
J.C.: "Hallelujah!"
Art: (laughs)
Cynthia: "And I look at Art's show as a great open forum to discuss things."
J.C.: "Well you've obviously been corrupted!"
Cynthia: "Well, sir, I don't agree with everything that comes on the air.."
J.C.: "You just; You just agree casually with some of the satanic stuff! And, and, you, you just casually agree
with Satan: 'Well you know, I don't agree with everything Satan does. I don't agree with the fact that Satan
inhabits the bodies of serial killers and tortures people, but you know, you know, some of the things that
Satan does is all right!'  Is that what you're saying?! That you can be a 'sometimes' Christian?! You're not
even a Christian!"
Cynthia: "Sir, I can't apply the same standards to non-Christians as to other Christians."
J.C.: "What's that supposed to mean, 'non-Christians as to other Christians'? Either you're a Christian or
you're not! If you're a non-Christian, you're gonna go to Hell!"
Cynthia: "Sir, you're trying to apply standards to Art that he may not choose to adhere to."
J.C.: "That doesn't matter! That's like saying 'I was ignorant of the law.' Either you obey the law, or not! If you
murder and then you say 'Oh I did not know the law. That's not my standards. I'm not going to adhere to the
law, because I feel that murder is something that I can be wild and free! And give my love and hate freely!
And that I can just go and do whatever I want, and since I am not applying to those standards, 'Well, Lord;
well, Lord, since you have your standards, I have my standards and, and I'm gonna do what I want! So its
okay to murder. Its okay for me to kill people and to rape and pillage and do drugs and Rock and Roll, and,
and whatever else you wanna do, but that's okay, because I have a different standard.' Well, let me tell you
something. You don't have enough respect in your voice to be a Christian! And the fact that you come on
here claiming to be a Christian is the fact of why we have so many people who are in the New Age who are
claiming Christianity, and are diverting Christians into the evil New Age! So don't give me that!"
Cynthia: "Sir, I consider you to be an embarrassment to Christianity. And the reason why I say that is
because as Christians we are to follow Christ, and Christ never went around slamming people; tossing them
into the ground; telling them they were going 'burn in Hell!'"
J.C.: "How many choices do you have?! TWO! Well shouldn't that be enough?!"
Cynthia: "He never ever said that!"
J.C.: "In fact, did Christ not say that to his Apostles at one time!?"
Cynthia: "Christ went around; he had a great respect for people"
J.C.: "Well have you ever received the Revelation from Christ? Have you ever received the Revelation from
the Lord, directly?!"
Cynthia: "Christ never went around telling people they were going to 'burn in Hell!'"
J.C.: "I beg to differ! You've obviously been deluded!"
Art: "All right, J.C., she kinda made a good point there. She said Christ himself never went around doing what
you're doing, sayin' people are gonna" ('demonic') "Burn in Hell!"
J.C.: "I.. You see, I am charged with God's work. Someone's gotta clean up this mess!"
Art: ( 'demonic') "You think you're above God, don't you?!"
J.C.: "No! I- In fact I'm very close with God."
Art: "Uhhh, huuhhh. First Time Caller Line, you're on the air with J.C.!"

Caller 2

Caller: "I'm Charlie; I'm calling from Medford, Oregon, and I've heard you call and
give Art a ration of Hell a number of times."
J.C.: "That's not Hell; that's the power of the Lord!"
Charlie: "Well, number one, I think Art is very level-headed. I enjoy his programs immensely."
J.C.: "Yeah, I'm sure you do."
Charlie: "And I might be one of those New Age people you talk about, but I am 46 years-old, I'm from the Rock
and Roll era."
J.C: "You sound like a homo!"
Charlie: "There's not a dog-gone thing wrong with me!"
J.C.: "Yeah, except you probably smoke dope! 'Well, there's nothing wrong with me! Oh, I listen to Rock
and Roll; there's nothing wrong with me!' That's a proxymoron!"
Charlie: "Hold it! Hold it! Hold it! When you get all excited, your voice raises; you start talking at warp eight
while your mind's only doing sub-light speed!"
J.C.: "Oh, now, don't give me all your Star Trak talk!" [sic]
Charlie: "You're not doing your blood pressure or your heart a dog-gone bit of good. You need to mellow-out,
man!"
J.C.: "No! No! You're the one who has the problem! You're the one who; listens to Rock and Roll! You admit
you listen to Rock and Roll!"
Charlie: "You are so warped mentally there's not a psychiatrist in the United States who.."
J.C.: "I am on the level with the Lord! You might be on the level with the New Age and the Rock and Roll
generation, but you're nothing! You're nothin' but; You sound like nothin' but a New Ager to me!"
Art: "Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Hold it everybody! Hold it! What is the matter with Rock and Roll?!"
Charlie: "Not a damn thing!"
J.C.: "First there's to know; Let me speak! Can I get a word edge-wise here?"
Charlie: "Little Richard; Fats Domino, and Elvis Presley; All the power to them in the world!"
J.C.: "w-You said 'the power of the world' that you're saying is in Rock and Roll. The fact that that Rock and Roll
music pounds the will of the listener into submission; subverting them with, with horrible lyrics, such as
fornication!"
Charlie: "You are a sick puppy, J.C. you need to be taken out behind the barn like a sick animal and put out of
your misery, man! I think there's a lot of people out there.."
J.C.: "You need to be put out of your misery! And you will be put into misery is what you'll have, 'cause you'll be
burning in Hell!"
Charlie: "...because you're so weird! We laugh and we get a good laugh out of it.. "
J.C.: "Let me ask you; Can I ask you a question?"
Charlie: "..and I have an idea right now of a lot of people out there listening to you right now and they are just
rolling on the floor, holding their guts with tears coming out of their eyes, they're laughing so hard!"
Art: "All right, all right! Let him ask! J.C., ask your question!"
J.C.: "Are you; sir, you sound like a homosexual.  Are you a homosexual?"
Art: "Oh J.C.!"
Charlie: "Come on now! Where the Hell do you get an idea like that?!"
J.C.: "Well, I don't know; it- you just; you, you can always tell by the evil sound in their voice."
Charlie: "I'm a happily married man; I love my wife very much. We're "both night-shift workers and
day-sleepers."
J.C.: "Oh, day sleepers! You know what sleeps durin' the day? That's the Devil's Undead!"
Art: "Aw, J.C., you oughta apologize for this one!"
Charlie: "J.C., you're a sick puppy! You need to be taken out behind the barn like a sick animal and put out of
your misery!"
J.C.: "I think! No! No! I think he's the one who should be apologizing; saying I should be KILLED like some
sick animal!"
Charlie: "A lot of people out there would totally appreciate it if you never called Art again and gave him any
kind of hate and discontent at all because you are sick!"
J.C.: "I have no hate! I have love! I am trying to save America from the clutches of the Devil! Don't you
understand?! But you can't see it!"
Charlie: "Oh, you're not; You're a one-man losing campaign; you are not personally in touch with God; you're
not personally in touch with anybody! You are totally out of the touch with the reality of the here and now.."
J.C.: "No, you live in the here and now!  You're the Rock-and-Roller!"
Charlie: "You're still living in the dinosaur age under a rock like a piece of lichen or a piece of moss!  You need
to get with it man, or get out of the program!"
Art: "Well there; There ya have it, J.C.! I just don't see how you can accuse, over the phone. You have no way of
knowing. You have no way of knowing what this man's sexual life is. And how can you accuse him of that, you,
a man supposedly of God!"
J.C.: "There's a lot of evil in the world and the fact that he was sayin' he loves the New Age, usually that's a
sign."
Art: "Of what?!"
J.C.: "Of EVIL! And deviance! And corruption! And- and-  HATE for the Lord!"
Art: "Hate for the Lord?! Hate for the Lord!? Um, Wild Card Line, you're on the air with J.C. Hello!

Caller 3

Caller: "Hi this is Cindy in Anchorage."
Art: "Hi Cindy. Anchorage, Alaska. All right, he's got something against Alaskans, Cindy."
J.C.: "Well that's true, because you've been corrupted already by the- by the Canadian
forces which are coveting America! You were a part of Russia for once, in the first place,
and the fact they probably have generational subversion going on is not all that far off!"
Cindy: "Where; Where are you getting all your information?"
J.C.: "What's that?"
Cindy: "Where you are getting your information?"
J.C.:  "I have my sources"
Cindy: "You have your sources.."
J.C.: "Namely, my primary one is the Lord."
Cindy: "The co- Excuse me.  The comment I have for you is that there are a lot of Christians out here who are
sitting and listening to you.."
J.C. "Not enough!  Obviously!"
Cindy: "..and you are making our job that God wants us to do a whole lot harder, because you're making
Christians, and you're lumping all Christians together, as, and I know I'm speaking for a lot of Christians out
there; you're making us all sound like fanatic freaks. That's why people don't listen to you."
J.C.: "Nooo, If you have a strong point of view anymore, you're a 'fanatic freak.' If you know clean-cut what's
right and what's wrong they call you 'sick.' That's what's wrong with today's world! Evil is accepted, and our
faith dies. People don't care anymore!"
Cindy: "Who's going to listen? There's no love in your heart when you're trying to get the message through."
J.C.: "No! There IS love in my heart! I'm trying to impart the message!"
Cindy: "Okay, what about your actions.  Your actions should speak louder than your words. People should be
able to see Jesus in your heart without you having to say anything."
J.C.: "No one! No one is listening anymore! Everyone has turned away! They've turned a deaf ear and a blind
eye to the church!"
Cindy: "Listen to the way you're talking to people!"
J.C.: "I'm trying to correct a mistake!"
Cindy: "Well, I'll tell you what, as far as Art's show goes,  I, uh, I don't agree with a lot of the things; the guests
that come on that say things, but if there are no; no other voices out there, how are people going to know.."
J.C. : "What are you talking about 'there is no other voices out there'?!"
Cindy: "Listen.  How are people going to know what's out there?"
J.C.: "There is another voice to this deception!"
Cindy: "Are you going to; are you going to; Do you want people to be ignorant about what is 'out there'?"
J.C.: "No, you don- y-you don't need to learn about these kinds of psychic phenomenas!"
Cindy: "Listen if you want people to be ignorant of evil in the world, then you are in darkness."
J.C.: "What you ne- If you want true, uh it, Listen to me! If you want true information, there's a really great book
that I know, and in fact its been in print for longer; for a real long time! And its called the Bible! Its got plenty of
information!"
Cindy: "I am a Christian.  I am not a religious person."
J.C.: "Oh, obviously!"
Cindy: "I have a relationship with the Lord."
J.C.: "You have what?  Did you?! What did you say?"
Cindy: "I said that I am not a religious person. I have a relationship with him."
J.C.: "With who?"
Cindy: "Jesus."
J.C.: "With Jesus, but you're not religious.  Hmm.. Well.. Okay."
Cindy: "No! Religious a- religious and religion is something you do everyday. Like, I religiously brush my teeth,
or I religiously do that."
J.C.: "That's good.."
Art: (laughs)
Cindy: "You need to have a relationship with Jesus."
J.C.: "What are you talking about? I DO have a relationship! I have been imparted with the New Revelation!"
Cindy: "Oh, really?"
J.C.: "Don't you understand that I am receptor of the New Commandments? And that through me, God and
I are working in close harmony to save America!"
Cindy: "God works through lots of different people. Not just you."
J.C.: "No, not very many. He is not working through you obviously, because you're just in denial! Y-You love
Art, and everything he can do is fine and 'the more he can subvert Christian America is fine with me!'"
Cindy: "I never say that! I didn't say that! You weren't even listening! See, you don't even listen!"
J.C.: "Yes! I am listening to you! I'm listening to you tear down the Judgement of Man!"
Cindy: "I said that I don't agree with all of the gusts that come on, but the way you approach Christianity and
trying to spread the Gospel is with- with anger."
Art: "All right! Thank you caller. So what they're saying to you, J.C. is that you're harming Christianity! You're
harming it! And I thought this ought to get through to you!"
J.C.: "What I am hearing is the fact of these people who have been infested by the Devil, with screams of
agony against my righteous might! That's all I'm hearin'!"
Art: "How are you empowered to know they're infested by the Devil?!"
J.C.: "Because I can tell! I know when someone's infested and when someone's corrupted!"
Art: "And so you could tell that lady was infested by the Devil?!"
J.C.: "Because- Yes!  Because I am on a constant pipeline with the Lord, and he has imparted me to know
who!"
Art: "'On a constant pipeline with the Lord,' all right. East of the Rockies, you're on the air with J.C. Hello!"

Caller 4

Caller: "This is Mike in Dubuque, Iowa."
Art: "Hi Mike!"
Mike: "Hey Art! I love your show! C.J.? er, J.C.?"
Art: "Its 'J.C.'
J.C.: "J.C.! Get it right!"
Mike: "Its spelled backwards; I figured you wouldn't know the difference!"
J.C.: "What? wha-? See how you just come on and insult me? I am a person
too, and I don't need to be insulted by your phone call!"
Mike: "I have two questions for you. The first one is, I'm curious as to what your definition of 'Hell' is?"
J.C.: "Hell? Hell is the absence of the Lord! Hell is the gnashing of teeth and the wringing of hands! Hell
is the flames and the fires and the worms as they work their way through your flesh as you live, as the Devil
pulls your skin off and dips you into boiling oil! And laughs in your face! And spits in your face as he says,
'You, you were a fool! I turned you away. God put his hand out. God gave his only son to the world!"
Mike: "Okay. I get the point."
Art: (laughs)
J.C. "Well obviously you don't!"
Mike: "No! I do! Because if you read in the Bible, the only thing it says about Hell is just merely the absence of
God. It doesn't say anything about the burning."
J.C.: "No! Its punishment, my friend!"
Mike: "Yeah, punishment being the absence of God."
J.C.: "Well you know what? Obviously you're more comfortable thinking that, 'Well, I'll just be without God.' Isn't
that enough of a punishment?! Isn't that enough?! But, you go ahead, just, 'I'm alright! Hell is just gonna be no
God. No God to be there to interrupt me if I wanna go do anything.'"
Art: "Well caller, you wanted a definition of Hell.  He sure gave it to you!"
Mike: "Okay okay My second question was, do you believe in the Seven Deadly Sins?"
J.C.: "Seven Deadly Sins?! Well there's more than seven!"
Mike: "Well, do you believe in the seven that are given in the Bible?"
J.C.: Yes! I do! I believe the Bible! God said it. I believe it. And that settles it!"
Art: (laughs)
Mike: "Okay!  One of the seven deadly sins is wrath!  Which you obviously are a sinner. How can you be that
close to God?"
J.C.: "No, no my friend. I am NOT filled with wrath!"
Mike: "Oooohhh.."
J.C.: "I am filled with the fury of the Lord!"
Mike, "Oh, no, no, no!  How could.."
J.C.: "I am charged my friend! I have a spiritual charge! Because I'm not complacent?! Because I will not sit
back as the legions of Satan march across the face of America, that makes me wrathful? I have- I have a
war with Satan! I have a holy victory with the Lord! And.."
Mike: Okay.  Then so you are a sinner.  God is a loving God.  He's not filled with hate."
J.C.: "It- it- You don't want to hear it! That's all!"
Art: "J.C.!  J.C.!  He's sayin' you're a sinner!"
J.C.: "No! I'm not! He is the sinner!"
Art: "You're a wrathful; a wrathful; hateful person, J.C.!  That makes you a sinner!"
J.C.: "I am NOT hateful!"
Mike: "Yes! I am a sinner.  I admit sin, and I go to the Lord to redeem myself."
J.C.: "Hmm?  Yeah!  As you should! But obviously you aren't redeemable!"
Mike: "Okay. So obviously since you do not admit yourself as a sinner, you can not be redeemed in the eyes of
God so you are going to Hell before I do!"
J.C.: "No, because I have worked past my sin!"
Mike: "By the definition in the Bible. That you.."
J.C.: "I have worked past my sin! I've paid my dues!"
Art: "J.C., you'd better think about it.  He's sayin' you're going to the place you described: the worms, the
burning of the flesh! J.C., that could be you!"
J.C.: "No! I already know I have a place on the right hand of the Lord, Hallelujah! Amen! I will be there, by
his side as all of you are cast down into the pit! And I might just do you a favor of spitting on you as you beg
for some water!"
Art: "Oh, man!"
J.C.: "But I am not gonna be in the burning pit of Hell with the boiling oil, and beasts! Do you understand there
will be all manner of horrible beasts?! They are all filled with venom and they bite you!"
Mike: "Well, I understand you're at the bottom of the hour and you've gotta go.  Thank you that this half an hour
is over.  I love your show, Art. I'll call you back later."
Art: "All right, sir.  Well we may continue.  we may continue for a period! (laughs) J.C., you wanna do more?"
J.C.: "I will definitely do more! As there is a lot of work left to do!"  
Art: "I knew you would.  All right! Hold on! Hold on! Hold on! Hold on! We'll be right back!"

(Break - Returning bumper music:"I'm so excited")

Art: "Burnin' up! Did ya hear that, J.C.? Burnin' up!"
J.C.: "I hear it."
Art: "Yea, and its not the kind of burnin' you're talking about. And, J.C., while we're on the subject, you know?
What in the world is wrong with sex?"
J.C.: "I'll TELL you what's wrong with it!"
Art: "Tell me!"
J.C.: "It is corrupt and dirty and vile!"
Art: "Is it?!"
J.C.: "That's correct."
Art: "Uh, my momma told me it was beautiful!"
J.C.: "'Beautiful.' There's nothing beautiful about it!"
Art: "There's nothin' beautiful about a man and a woman doin' the natural thing, J.C.?
J.C. "It's unnatural."
Art: "Unnatural!?"
J.C. :"Unless- unless you are in the specific act of creating children; new souls, the sexual act is a perversion
of frenzy!"
Art: "Unbelievable! You mean to say the normal act, even if not in the process of creation, between a man
and a woman is a bad thing?!"
J.C.: "Horrible!"
Art: "Horrible?! And the people who do it are gonna burn?!"
J.C.: "That's correct. If you're not doing it with the specific intent to honor God's uh, decree to be fruitful and
multiply. If you're doin' it for the Devil, then you're getting into a frenzy of sexual-"
Art: "Doin' it for the Devil?! Doin' it for the Devil?! You mean just when a man and woman love each other; get
together; intimate, sexual act, uh, that's bad?!"
J.C: "If it's not.. Like I said, do I have to keep repeating myself?!"
Art: "No you don't; I got it. First-time Caller Line, you're on the air with J.C.!"

Caller 5

Caller: "Art and J.C., Good morning and peace above you!"
Art: "Peace."
J.C.: "Thank you."
Caller: "Hey, J.C., would you take a little advice from a brother Christian?"
J.C.: "Well, hallelujah, that you're a Christian."
Caller: "This is David in Los Angeles."
J.C.: "Hallelujah, David."
David: "First of all, Art, I might, uh, just interject that uh, this is a really bad Ross Perot
impersonation!" (laughs)
Art: (laughs)
J.C.: "Excuse me?!"
David: "Either it's a bad Ross Perot impersonation, or it really is Ross nad he needs
something to do after the election."
J.C.: "Ross Perot was simply a pawn in the fact that he was attempting to degrade George Bush's victory!"
David: "Well his character voice is out from time to time, J.C., you really need to work on that. Anyway, I
believe that J.C. knows just about as much about Christianity as Bob Dole probably knows about the price of
milk. J.C., a little advice for you. You're going to win more souls to the Lord with honey than you will with guns.
You're not going to win friends for God by being.."
J.C.: "I have no problem with guns!"
Art: (laughs)
David: "And I know this is probably an act and a big sham, but I want to let you know that a lot of people that
listen to the radio are influenced by what you say."
J.C.: "I don't take kindly to your words of accusing my faith of being nothing more than a sham! I am not some
dime-a-minute preacher on television tryin' to get rich and get limousine and a whore! No, sir! I have been
working for the Lord my entire life! My father raised me in the Bible's way! And conditioned my soul and my
spirit to work for the anointing of the Lord! And for you to accuse me of being like those horrible preachers on
T.V..."
Art : "You know what I think, I think you've got gold faucets!"
J.C.: "Gold faucets?!"
David: "And an amusement park with a water slide for God! 'I let no evil talk come out of my mouth, but only
such as is good for edifying, as fits the occasion, that it may impart grace to those who hear..' " (Ephesians
4:29)
J.C.: "Don't quote ME! I rebuke you!"
Art: (laughs)
David: "I'm not quoting you, I'm quoting God, and obviously there's quite a difference between the two of them."
Art: "Well he might be a little confused about that!"
David: "I'm starting to believe that. He's confused about his Ross Perot impersonation; he's confused about
God. J.C., please. Pray, get into the spirit, and really consider deeply what you're doing. I know its fun to be on
the radio and do a character voice.."
J.C.: "You know I am not having a good time! I am hearing these people that are destroying America! And
the fact you would quote the Bible against a man of the Lord, you are.. 'I don't wanna hear you! I rebuke
you! I bind you! I cast you away from me!'"
David: (laughs)
J.C.: "Away with you, demon!' And! And! You! And! 'I bind you from doing more harm in the Lord's name!
I rebuke you-"
Art: "That's like casting a spell!"
J.C.: "-and you and the demons!' The fact that you're claiming to be a Christian; you aren't close to
Christianity!"
Art: ('demonic') "You are acting like you're casting a spell! You're casting a spell, aren't you? 'I rebuke you!'
J.C.! You're casting a spell, J.C.!"
J.C.: "I know!"
Art: "Ooooh! You know!"
J.C.: "The Lord has power to bind!"
Art: "Uh huh.. All right, Wild Card Line, you're on the air with J.C.!"

Caller 6

Caller: "Hello, Art? Yes. I was on the other night. I'm part of a bunch of international prophets from all over the
world."
Art: "Oooh. You're a prophet?
Caller: "Pardon me?"
Art: "You're a prophet?"
Caller.: "Yes."
Art: "You hear that, J.C.? He's a prophet!"
J.C.: "Oh, boy..."
Caller: "And, uh, I'm a follower of Jesus Christ. And I believe that Jesus has come in the flesh as the Son of
God, and we deeply love him with all our hearts."
J.C.: "Good!"
Caller: "And, Art, I have to say I was on your show the other night when you asked my if I believed in the End
Times?  Do you remember that?"
Art: "Yes! Yes! Yes, I remember!"
Caller: "Okay this is me, okay?"
Art: "All right."
Caller: "I travel all over the nation. I preach in all kinds of churches. Pentecostal churches. I preach in Baptist
churches.
Art: "Okay. What is your point for J.C., here?
Caller: "Okay, J.C., um, one of the things that we are getting together on right now is that when we speak, we
don't speak just to preach. We speak with the heart breaking for Jesus. We speak where he; his heart is
breaking for the world, and like the brother said before, we wanna win the world with honey. Now, when the
very heavy things are needed, we believe that God's power will convict the sinner to such a degree, to where
they will feel deeply; deeply, they will feel the power of God come upon them."
J.C.: "Preach on, brother!"
Art: "But they're saying you're not honey, though, J.C.!"
Caller: "Listen, J.C., I hear what you're saying. I know that you- there- I've met a lot of people like you as I've
traveled. And like I said, I speak out in a lot of places. We're, even internationally we are preparing to launch
tremendous things all over the world. but one of the things we're teaching, is that when two people know God's
heart, they can't fool the old Bayhem. Until they know the full love.."
J.C.: "I'm in full compliance. Does that say anything?"
Caller: "Listen to what I'm saying. Because 'the spirit of the prophets is subject to the prophets,' (1 Cor. 14:32)
okay?"
J.C.: "Hmm!"
Caller: "Until they know the heart of God, God won't release the power! Until we know the deep love of God for
this world that is so hurting."
J.C.: "Preach! Preach on, brother! I agree! Thats- That's true!"
Art: "All right, so there it sounds like you two, uh, pretty much agree.  East of the Rockies, you're on the air    
with J.C.!"

Caller 7

Caller: "Yes, this is Lloyd in Nebraska."
Art: "Nebraska! Yes."
Lloyd: "I- I- I'm curious. J.C., where are you from? What state?"
J.C.: "I am in California, currently."
Lloyd: "Okay. I was just- I was curious. I didn't think I'd heard any, uh,  mention of it."
J.C.: "I didn't come from here to begin with."
Lloyd: "Uh- I am going through some of the things I hear and feel that you're
experiencing regarding the government, and people understanding.."
J.C.: "D- Do- Do you?! I trust the government! I don't distrust out government!"
Art: (laughs)
Lloyd: "Okay, my, my question to you is, Do you have a drivers' license?
J.C.: "Yes I do!"
Lloyd: "Uh, where- In the Bible it says that lasciviousness is a sin. Is that right?"
J.C.: "Oh, you're gonna double-talk me!"
Lloyd: "No. No. Its something that the Lord showed me."
J.C.: "Mhmm. So I'm sinnin' by drivin'."
Art: "Go down the path with him, J.C.!"
Lloyd: "No, I'm not saying you're sinning.."
J.C.: "Whatever! Alright, go ahead.  Whatever! You're gonna make some point that I'm a sinner!"
Lloyd: "No, no, no!  All I'm saying is I have discovered that there is at least two of me.
J.C.: "TWO!?"
Lloyd: "One created by God, in the flesh. The other is created by the state."
J.C.: (loud 'gasp!')
Lloyd: "Are you with me?"
J.C.: "What are you talking about, 'created by the state'?! That sounds like anti-government rhetoric!"
Art: (laughing)
Lloyd: "No, no, no! Do you have a birth certificate?"
J.C.: "Yes I do!"
Lloyd: "Okay, who created that birth certificate?"
J.C.: "Well, ultimately the Lord did, because he created everything! So, so if you're gonna try and tell me that I
should hate the government because I have a birth certificate and a social security number, and that-
that- that I should be joinin' your revolution and start blowing up buildings, well I don't think so, my friend!
I love- I love our government! And the fact that the- the- the New World Order is attempting to make us hate
our government so that we'll accept 'their' help when the time comes! So that, 'Well, you don't like what
they're doing. Your government's lied to you! Your government's experimented on you with- with- with
chemicals and radiation so why don't you just come and be a part of our 'Big-World-Love New Order,' and
enjoy; embrace the New Age, wave your Christian-American heritage to the past, burn your Constitution;
give up your guns; and just join the New; The NEW World Order!' NO! I do not BUY the fact that I have a
birth certificate, or a driver's license, or pay my taxes, or love the state that I live in, or love America, that
I am in any way a sinner! And that you would imply, loving America, and to hate those who hate
America, is a sin, your- You disgust me! And your type disgust me! And I don't think that it is.."
Lloyd: (laughs)
Art: "Are you sorry you said anything at all, sir?" (laughing)
Lloyd: (laughing) "This is- This is almost hilarious!"
Art: "Almost!"
Lloyd: "Almost! Okay, what- Uh, one more question."
Art: (laughs) "Oh really? Brave soul! Go ahead!"
Lloyd: "Uh, what is your definition of humbling?"
J.C.: "Humbling..?"
Art: "Yeah."
Lloyd, "Yeah, where can.."
J.C.: "Humbling or tumbling? I can barely understand him!"
Art: ('demonic') "Humbling! Humbling! Down on your knees!"
J.C.: "My definition is to get before the Lord and to look up at him with your heart open and your hands
together, and say, 'Lord! Lord, I am a sinner. I have broken your Commandments. I have rebuked and
turned against your ways. I have adopted the ways of the world.'"
Art: "You know what I wanna know? I- Now wait a minute! Alright. Now, now, just let me stop- Let me stop you
right there! I wanna know what sins you've committed, J.C.!
J.C.: "None! They've all been wiped away! Wiped clean!"
Art: "Wiped clean!? The slate has been wiped clean!?"
J.C.: "Don't know any sin!"
Art: "Yeah, but so you did sin!"
J.C.: "No, I did not!"
Art: "You did not sin? I thought you just said you were a sinner!"
J.C.: "No, no! In the eyes of the Lord, I am as pure as the mountain snow!"
Art: "Ooh! Are you now? West of the Rockies, you're on the air with 'Mr. Pure,' J.C.! Hello!"

Caller 8

Caller: "Hello? Hello?"
J.C.: "Hello?! What are you deaf?!"
Art: (laughs)
Caller: "Alright.  I need to speak with J.C."
Art: "Yep. Go ahead."
Caller: "Alright. Are you listening, J.C.? Do you know who this is?"
J.C.: "Not the greatest mind of the century."
Caller: "This is Satan." (unheard)